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Help Me! I can't Get Hopeful Future Ending...

#1 by Sai Akira - Aug 30 2009

I know there's quite a number topic about Hopeful Future and I read them all but still... I can't convince Randy to help me.

Okay. So here is it my decision / choices.

I walk home. And said I wanna be a teacher and then I choose intelligence.
Then I choose to talk about the mysterious book. At the mall, I let Lucy buy me the necklace and watch Sorority Slasher 2 with her. Then I told Tim and Randy that my name is Christina.
I choose to go to the library instead of Lucy's house and there, I talked about the murder thingy with Elizabeth.

And when Lucy told me about ??? (Sebastian), I said 'What? You're engaged?" and "So? What happened?"
I choose to protect Lucy. And of course, I don't slept over at her house. I also admit that I went out to Mom.

And then I choose 'whimper' and go back home and gave Tim the phone. Then I promised Randy I won't tell anyone about his secret and ask him more about the Second Sight.

What else? Oh yeah I also choose to met Katie and agreed that I had the second sight. Then I told Lucy I would believe her and said that I will let her stay in my house then we go talk with Randy.

And as always, he said he will kill me if I go near his sister. That's all I can remember.

Whoah!!! This time I really wrote a lot O.o

#2 by Sai Akira - Aug 31 2009

Okay okay.... I made a bit exchange. I choose to rather go to search for Lucy instead of going to the Library. But still, it won't work.

I tried again. I choose to walk home and choose to be a banker and look forward romance.

I ask Lucy about the book and went to the library and try to find out more about the book.
Let's see how it's going.

Other than that, well, it's all the same thing.

#3 by Sai Akira - Aug 31 2009

... This sure drives me crazy!
It don't works and I don't know what's my mistake really is.

Well... Okay then. I'll wait for someone to pop in and tell me my mistake or the way to get it.
It would be great if you can also tell me all the choices ; )

But since it took so much words and times to write, nevermind.
Just if you are free. I guess that's it.

#4 by hanako - Aug 31 2009

I really don't know why some people have so much trouble with this, while others follow the set instructions and have no problem... Sometimes it's because people are loading old savegames and thus they've made choices that they don't remember making. Sometimes I have no idea what's going wrong!

If you've

- told Randy your name at the beginning
- kept Lucy from going to the party
- given the phone to Tim
- promised to keep Randy's secret
- agreed to meet his sister without being nervous about it
- agreed that you have the Sight
- told randy "It's about Katie" when you to go convince him

... you should have MORE than enough points to get him to agree with you!

#5 by Sai Akira - Aug 31 2009

Well, I did all of the following and I had restarted the game few times.

Perhaps it had something to do with the ambition and what I want from a man?

Nevermind then. I'll try to restart the game again. : D

#6 by Sai Akira - Aug 31 2009

It still won't work for me.

I guess there's something I'm missing. Oh yeah how do I kept Lucy from going to the party? I mean is there's an option for it?

I downloaded the walkthrough also and still failed. I guess maybe all the beginning option are counted as well coz' the walkthrough said to avoid from choosing looks from a man.

This is really confusing.

#7 by hanako - Aug 31 2009

There isn't a direct option to keep Lucy from going to the party - it happens if your relationship with Lucy is high enough early on.

If you care about love rather than looks, and let Lucy buy you presents and go to the slasher film with you, then your relationship with Lucy should be high and she won't go to the party. She only goes to the party if she's irritated with Christina.

Then, in chapter 2 when the wolf pack first interrogates you about smelling of death, Christina talks to Randy instead of Tim. Give up the phone then, not in the next chapter, and it should be worth points.

#8 by Sai Akira - Sep 1 2009

Let's see what I miss:

Chapter One
- Call for a ride
- Teacher
- Romance
- Ask about the strange book
- Say yes
- Sorority Slasher 2
- Christina
- Go to the library
- Look for information on murder
- Run away

Chapter Two
- Wait. You're engaged?
- So what happened?
- Protect Lucy
- Show them the phone
- Admit you went out
- Set an alarm
- Stay home

Chapter Three
- Whimper
- I want to go home
- Call Lucy
- I promise
- Second sight?
- I’d like to meet her

Chapter 4
- Agree
- Of course I would believe you
- Not dead
- A vampire
- Disagree with Lucy
- You can stay with me
- It’s about Katie

Ending: Runaways

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Sorry Hanako. I believe I'm the hardest one to get Hopeful Future Ending here when others just get to second post and voila!

#9 by Sai Akira - Sep 3 2009

I hope there will be chance for me to complete the gallery =3 and to enjoy all the endings! =D

Thanks, Hanako for helping me, though. I'm sure you must be very busy. I hope more people will pop in and tell me what's my mistake is!

Can't wait for the ending! x D

#10 by hanako - Sep 4 2009

I don't know what to suggest - I just downloaded a fresh copy of the game and went through and made every choice on the list you posted there, since they should be correct - and sure enough, it goes straight through that point towards Hopeful Future. It does NOT stop and split off to Runaways.

So I'm quite puzzled! You're not making any mistakes... it just seems like something's gone wrong with your copy of the game. (And since I'm on vacation and therefore not at my computer, there's not much I can do about that at the moment.)

#11 by Sai Akira - Sep 6 2009

Yeah maybe... I don't had any idea what else should I do
Thanks. :3
I guess I'll wait till' your vacation ends, then ; )

#12 by KDlala - Sep 14 2009

I've had it happen too, I really can't tell what it was, maybe some quirk caused by my computer or something? I got Hopeful Future one time, went back another with a fresh game and made the exact same choices and it didn't work.

Maybe it's Jeremy screwing around with us all. I'm onto you, you pink haired psychopath!

#13 by phoenixgirl - Sep 29 2009

Hi all,

I'm wondering if anyone is still having trouble getting the Hopeful Future ending. I tried to a little while ago and I got it. I looked at what Sai posted regarding the choices made and I made most of those same choices. The only one that might have made a difference is after Randy mentions to Christina about her having the second sight, Christina either chooses Second Sight? or I understand. I chose "I understand" so I'm not sure if that affects the ending somehow.

#14 by Sai Akira - Oct 26 2009

phoenixgirl:

Hi all,

I'm wondering if anyone is still having trouble getting the Hopeful Future ending. I tried to a little while ago and I got it. I looked at what Sai posted regarding the choices made and I made most of those same choices. The only one that might have made a difference is after Randy mentions to Christina about her having the second sight, Christina either chooses Second Sight? or I understand. I chose "I understand" so I'm not sure if that affects the ending somehow.

Which did you follow? My first or second post? : I
I tried it again, my second post about my choices, and I just changed it to "I understand", I followed the other choices, but still, I don't get it.

: ( Is there any other way I could get Hopeful Future ending?

#15 by hanako - Oct 26 2009

I'll be back in the country on my normal work computer in a couple of weeks, and at that point I may be able to give you some debugging commands and/or cheat codes. From here, I don't have the source code, so all I can do is give you the actual gameplay directions...

I can come up with off-the-wall theories, like that if you're playing on a computer whose OS is set to a language other than English there's a slim chance that the instruction file is being misread, but really, that should have a lot of OTHER effects.

#16 by phoenixgirl - Oct 29 2009

@Sai:

I'm not sure what to tell you, either. This is strange. I followed the same things you did (with the second post) and so you should have gotten the Hopeful Future ending. It looks like hanako will help you out. Sorry I couldn't help out more.

#17 by hanako - Nov 7 2009

Here's something you can try:

As you play through the game, after you make a choice, hit F10, then type the following into the enter code box:

show_message(string(global.randylevel));

This will show how many 'points' of trust Randy has for you.

It starts the game at 0. You should see this going up after things like telling him your name, giving up the phone, and so on.

If it never goes up at all, something is REALLY weird with your computer or your copy of the game. If it goes up and then suddenly goes down, then if you can figure out *where* it's breaking we might be able to figure out what's going on.

And if it goes high and still doesn't let you get the ending, that's also weird, but at least we'll know what to look at next. So try to find out what your randylevel is by the point where it *should* turn towards Hopeful Future?

#18 by sayuri - Dec 29 2009

I've been having this problem too, and I used the code to track my points. I found that after two the points wouldn't go up or down. I'm guessing this is a bug, is there any way I can fix it?

#19 by hanako - Dec 29 2009

Well, the problem is that this is a 'bug' of the incomprehensible/impossible nature.

That is, the script very specifically says "do this". It's quite hard to figure out how, exactly, some people's computers are able to process the script enough to display the text and yet are mysteriously failing to execute one of the commands that's blatantly written RIGHT THERE.

And why just this one thing on just this one ending, for only some people? And supposedly only some of the time? It makes no sense. It's like your computer is occasionally claiming 2+2 is 5.

If everyone who is having this bug bought their copies from the same place, and the bit about it only happening some of the time is a mistake, then it might be possible to track it down to a bad copy being distributed somewhere with mangled code in it.

Or if everyone with the problem is using the same kind of computers, maybe that kind of computer really does think 2+2 is 5 occasionally.

But it's not a problem in the script, so I'm currently at a loss to fix it.

All I can do is ask people who've had trouble to provide information on where they got the game from and what computers they're using.

#20 by sayuri - Mar 16 2010

I hate bringing up an old topic but I just started playing the game again. Is there just some code I can input to change the relationship points? Looking at the blank spot without CG is killing me inside ;P. I don't really see any other solution besides using a different computer.

#21 by hanako - Mar 17 2010

The problem is that the code to change the relationship level is already being input by the game script, and is apparently being ignored. Without knowing what the problem is I can't suggest a workaround. I really need to know where people are buying from and what sort of computers they're using in order to try and track this down.

#22 by sayuri - Mar 18 2010

All right, I'm using a HP Compaq with Windows Vista and I bought the game from here.

#23 by hanako - Mar 18 2010

*glares suspiciously at Vista*

Hopefully other people with the problem will chip in as well so I can see if there's a common thread. In the meantime, check your PMs.

#24 by phoenixgirl - Mar 18 2011

I apologize for bringing up an old topic as well but I did find something that might help pinpoint what's causing the bug.

When I played this the first time, I had Windows XP and so never encountered this problem. It seems to happen with comps that have Vista and Windows 7, since the two seem pretty similar. Anyway, I noticed that if I saved my game file and had accumulated points, then exited the game and later came back to it, my points would go back down to zero. The only way to get this ending for me was when I played the game straight out without exiting it.

Not sure if this will help anyone else but thought it wouldn't hurt to post something.