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Challenge and restricted runs

#1 by Exkalipoor - Dec 22 2015

If you have played the game to death, you can find and post challenges in this topic.


- Beat the game with only spending 90~95 points in your classes.
- Beat the game by always chosing the first option everytime you have to make a decision in the weekly events (hard).
- Beat the game by always chosing the last option everytime you have to make a decision in the weekly events (easy).
- Beat the game with only one class category (not possible in the old versions).
- Beat the game with only two class categories:
Military and Conversation
Military and Economics
Lumen and one of Animal Handling, Medicine or Faith.
Intrigue and one of Anmal Handling, Medicine or Faith.
- Participate on all three military battles (Ixion, Civil War, Sea Battle) in one playthrough. Don't scare the ixionian completely off with magic, don't skip the civil war with negotiations and don't "skip" the sea battle with a lumen concert. You basically should lose soldiers in every battle and still win the sea battle.
- Get ~16000 lassi.


Mini Challenges:

- Lose the vote of no confidence with 8 votes against you.
- Have only Talarist, Anciet and "No One" as your possible marriage options in week 39.
- Kill Julianna and marry Ignatius on the same playtrough.

Re: Challenge and restricted runs

#2 by Mir - Dec 22 2015

Exkalipoor:

- Have only Talarist, Anciet and "No One" as your possible marriage options in week 39.

...And depending on your choices, I think it can be so neither Talarist or Anciet will marry you. (Elodie is too cruel for Anciet and Talarist marries someone else.)

Haven't tried this out myself, but someone on the Steam forums made it known that this is possible: win the sea battle and get a peasant rebellion in the same playthrough.

Re: Challenge and restricted runs

#3 by KitCat - Sep 26 2016

Get every tests at ok? Are someone hints that?
Even Demo... That´s difficult... that Trade+Production at it... ANYTIME my girl was failed it...

Anyway every test failed is more difficult also not hopen?

Re: Challenge and restricted runs

#4 by Exkalipoor - Jun 20 2017

Get every tests at ok? Are someone hints that?

I believe it isn't possible to pass every check that appears onscreen, as you need 100 Internal Affairs in Week 13. On the other hand, there is the partial success...

Anyway every test failed is more difficult also not hopen?

Not possible. You need to pass at least two checks in this game. One that deals with the chocolates (50 Dogs is the lowest amount of points) and one that deals with Togami (you need at least 40 Intrigue for him). Any other obstacle is avoidable through not participating in any dangerous Event and having high enough approval with the nobles and common People (just visit the throne room any Weekend and don't make too many outrageous decisions).

Re: Challenge and restricted runs

#5 by KitCat - Jul 4 2017

Exkalipoor:

Get every tests at ok? Are someone hints that?

I believe it isn't possible to pass every check that appears onscreen, as you need 100 Internal Affairs in Week 13. On the other hand, there is the partial success...
.

Oh my... well... only way that is CHEAT. .
If cheat and get crown, it is empty happy feeling, than youre not cheat ( or are these walking help thinks cheat or not?)

And i suffer death at Demo.... group wrong decisions cost life... as usual these Prince(ss) maker games...
Although CK was more that like?

Re: Challenge and restricted runs

#6 by Tsunamiracle - Nov 8 2017

While it's been a very long time since I did them and I've forgotten the steps I took, a fun couple of challenges I did were trying to kill as many named characters as I could, and trying to get as many countries enraged with me as possible.

For the former, my record is fourteen characters who have names, with all but three having actual speaking lines and portraits (though not all showed up in this playthrough). I believe the only two killable characters that were spared were Togami and Sabine, and that's because setting up their deaths would spare many other lives. I'd like to try again to maximize deaths (and implicit deaths) of unnamed characters, too. Messing with the soldiers seems to be a a fast way to rack up deaths, but I don't have a good head for numbers so I just went the route of "recruit as many people as possible and let the naval battle sort em out".

On the latter, I think my biggest issue was surviving the naval fleetso that I could execute all the Shanjian POWs and enrage a bunch of unnamed countries. But I remember having a lot of trouble making that event work out while still passing other vital checks... My memory is not reliable, but I'm pretty sure that between the two challenges, I had more trouble with this. For the record, I ended up with four named countries attacking Nova, plus an unknown number of allies for one of those countries.

Maybe for another challenge... Try to change up as many duchies as possible? By which I mean, do everything in your power to remove the current dukes and duchesses. Sedna in Talasse also counts, unless conditions make it impossible to fit in.

One more idea, although it's resolved very early in the game (though you might be able to combine it with other small challenges): Get a tie during the vote of no confidence. To make the numbers work, I had to anger somebody who's usually always on Elodie's side...

Re: Challenge and restricted runs

#7 by jennyanydots123 - Oct 16 2020

Has anyone been successful with choosing the first option for every decision?

I keep getting getting forced to surrender the Ixion province, which leads to a civil war that forces me to surrender (as giving up is the top option).

Re: Challenge and restricted runs

#8 by Exkalipoor - Oct 26 2020

jennyanydots123:

Has anyone been successful with choosing the first option for every decision?

I keep getting getting forced to surrender the Ixion province, which leads to a civil war that forces me to surrender (as giving up is the top option).

You need enough Noble Approval, which is a hidden stat, to prevent the civil war. Spending weekends on the throne or dancing raises it. Dancing at the ball and Decoration at the festival and ball also gets some Noble Approval.
Then you have to survive the birthday, the chocolate, Kevan and the naval batttle. The latter requires military skills as well as trade to get more ships.

What I did was spending every weekend on the throne until the civil war was over. It could be possible to neglect this once or twice. You can raise eveything while being depressed, with the exception of conversation, so the 60 court manners have to be increased after the civil war.

So you totally need:
70 Decoration at the festival
90 Dance at the ball
40 Trade and 70 Logistics for ships
100 Archery/Reflex for the birthday
70 Poison for the chocolate
90 Swords for Kevan
60 Court Manners and Military to win the sea battle. (after the Civil war was prevented, increase cheerfulness so that conversation can be raised)

Re: Challenge and restricted runs

#9 by jennyanydots123 - Nov 21 2020

Thanks for your detailed response, I wish I had seen it sooner!

I did pretty much everything you specified (for things like Kevan and the chocolate there's really no way around it )

I avoided the Civil War a little differently.

I ended up spending most weekends in the throne room, although I alternated my weekend activities occasionally to become yielding. I used the yielding boost to improve my Presence, Elegance, and Composure for the ball check. I also had either internal or foreign affairs up to 70 to avoid losing 15 noble approval for not speaking up to Talarist and Banion at the ball. I wish I had saved my logs so I could remember more specifically what I did. Oh well...

Re: Challenge and restricted runs

#10 by Exkalipoor - Jun 3 2023

Tsunamiracle:

While it's been a very long time since I did them and I've forgotten the steps I took, a fun couple of challenges I did were trying to kill as many named characters as I could, and trying to get as many countries enraged with me as possible.

For the former, my record is fourteen characters who have names, with all but three having actual speaking lines and portraits (though not all showed up in this playthrough). I believe the only two killable characters that were spared were Togami and Sabine, and that's because setting up their deaths would spare many other lives. I'd like to try again to maximize deaths (and implicit deaths) of unnamed characters, too. Messing with the soldiers seems to be a a fast way to rack up deaths, but I don't have a good head for numbers so I just went the route of "recruit as many people as possible and let the naval battle sort em out".

On the latter, I think my biggest issue was surviving the naval fleetso that I could execute all the Shanjian POWs and enrage a bunch of unnamed countries. But I remember having a lot of trouble making that event work out while still passing other vital checks... My memory is not reliable, but I'm pretty sure that between the two challenges, I had more trouble with this. For the record, I ended up with four named countries attacking Nova, plus an unknown number of allies for one of those countries.

Tried this yesterday and I got 16 characters and four of them having neither portrait or lines (Assassine, Adairs grandfather, Emry and Zahra).
I assume you don't kill Evrad when you call the guards on week 14?

The first choice is executing Brin vs executing the messenger and killing soldiers in the skirmish with Ixion. If you go for named characters, Brin is better since it triggers the Assassine and Banion.

The woman on trial can be exectued. Archery enables to do it properly, though she gets cut down otherwise, which also counts.

The assassine at the festival can be killed personaly. Dodging and disarming him gives even a choice of killing vs sparing, which further cements Elodies killing intent.

At the event, ordering Banions execution is the best choice, since Lucille and Laurent can be executed later.

The agents can kill Arisse, Julianna and the assassines family. Julianna seems to be the better choice, but killing Arisse opens up to (sort of) let Briony be killed, so it evens out. Killing Julianna restricts the Naval Battle (no magic, Arisses civil war further lowers your army).

The Lumen Rouge also can be killed by having Julianna alive and you properly trained.

Adair can be led to his death by having him stay by his grandfather, who can be blamed for it and executed.

Aside from fighting and executing Arisse, Briony can be led to the forst and left behind. Granted, she kind of kills herself, but Elodie can get some responsibility for it if she accompanies her.

Elodie can test prisoners on the poisoned chocolate. Or a servant dies afer he snacked on one of them.

Kevan can be killed in the tournamet, like with the Assassine, disarming him is the cruelest choice again, since he is no danger anymore (though the text points out that he could have gotten for his weapon while on the ground).

After the Naval Battle, every surviver can be executed. If going for named characters Togami could be killed. Killing Elodies father ends the game too quickly, Earthquake hinders Sabines investigation, and the Kraken seems to not appear if Togami is killed.

Finally, Lucille, Laurent, Charlotte, Emry and Zahra can be executed if Sabine investigates after the chocolate. The latter can be killed instead of them.



How to do it:
20 Foreign History for Brin, punish her.
60 Archery for Woman on Trial, execute her
50 Flexibility and 50 Polearms for Assassine, disarm and kill him.
Just accuse Banion of sending Assassins to kill him without skills.
40 Intrigue to spy on Arisse
80 Sense Magic and 60 Resist Magic to kill the Lumen Rouge. So 60 Accounting to get Lumen sooner is key.
50 Music/Instrument to recruit Sabine.
Let Adair live with his grandfather, execute the latter a bit later.
Just let Briony go in the forest. [Leaving her behind requires 60 lore, 70 herbs, 50 Running.]
Kevan requires 100 Polearms/Flexibility or just Wield Magic him.
Togami requires high Lumen and 100 Swords/Reflexes.
Execute Lucille, Laurent, Charlotte, Zahra and Emry once Sabine informs you.