Moods Impact

Atarun

#1 by Atarun - Jun 6 2012

Hey there, I bought Long Live the Queen a few days ago and I'm having a lot of fun dying in all sorts of unexpected ways and failing at everything... ahem...
Anyway, I tried each and every mood to determine the impact and I thought others might benefit from that. Though practical, I don't think it'd spoil the game for anyone (it's quite tricky to figure out how to get in the right mood at the right time, anyway).

There goes:

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Please do tell me if I made a mistake so that I can fix the table, or if you have a suggestion for me to improve it.

TheChristianBrony

#2 by TheChristianBrony - Jun 6 2012

This is really cool but I think some of the stats might be a bit off. For instence, I know that whenever I was willfull, I could get bonuses in weapons, military, Lumen, and Intruige.

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Atarun

#3 by Atarun - Jun 6 2012

TheChristianBrony:
This is really cool but I think some of the stats might be a bit off. For instence, I know that whenever I was willfull, I could get bonuses in weapons, military, Lumen, and Intruige.

Are you sure? I just checked and Willful gives me -2 Royal Demeanor, -2 History, +1 Intrigue, -2 Economics, +1 Military and +1 Lumen.
I see no bonus in Weapons.

My version is LongLiveTheQueenRetail-1.0.3... in case that's where the difference comes from.

hanako

#4 by hanako - Jun 6 2012

TheChristianBrony:
This is really cool but I think some of the stats might be a bit off. For instence, I know that whenever I was willfull, I could get bonuses in weapons, military, Lumen, and Intruige.

Your bonuses are also affected by how much you've studied a skill previously, so if you'd been pumping Weapons you may have built up a non-mood bonus in the stat.

Similarly, nothing gives a +2 - the Yielding bonus to Royal Demeanor is only +1, and Pressured doesn't boost it at all.

Atarun

#5 by Atarun - Jun 6 2012

hanako:
Your bonuses are also affected by how much you've studied a skill previously, so if you'd been pumping Weapons you may have built up a non-mood bonus in the stat.

Similarly, nothing gives a +2 - the Yielding bonus to Royal Demeanor is only +1, and Pressured doesn't boost it at all.

Indeed, it gets tricky to work out the real bonus, because it takes a while to reach some moods and in the meantime you have to study at least one skill... Which is why I knew there had to be mistakes in my table. ^^

No big deal, though, I'll fix it until it's perfect.

EDIT: There. Yielding and Pressured impacts on Royal Demeanor fixed.

Ladymakaze

#6 by Ladymakaze - Jun 7 2012

Nice one. Royal Demeanor is definitely one of the more challenging categories to level up.

While not a mood, per say the 'Injured' status may appear depending on how hard you fail at a certain 'Climbing' action. As far as I know, this status puts a penalty on your Physical skills as it might any other mood. Haven't checked to see if the effects of the Injured status stack with that of your mood, but it might be worth looking into.

Or not, since it only lasts for that one turn and you could easily just backtrack to avoid the injury in the first place. XD;

FantasyFan

#7 by FantasyFan - Jun 7 2012

THANK YOU. That chart will be REALLY helpful. I've only managed to get to coronation once (before the game was officially released), and now that it's out I keep dying or losing the throne . . . I don't even remember how I managed to win before.

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TheChristianBrony

#8 by TheChristianBrony - Jun 7 2012

ohhh I see, my bad lol

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Atarun

#9 by Atarun - Jun 7 2012

@Ladymakaze
I haven't had a chance to use Climbing yet. XD
If you send me a log where you got the Injured status, I'll add it to the table. ;)

@FantasyFan
You're very welcome.
And you're not alone in wondering how the hell you managed/avoided something on one playthrough. XD
Reminds me of fighting games: if you mash all buttons randomly, you sometimes unleash devastating techniques and you can't reproduce them willingly, no matter how long you try. ^^'

@TheChristianBrony
Well, there _were_ mistakes in the table. There might still be some. ^^

Rhidian

#10 by Rhidian - Jun 7 2012

Here is what should be the correct list, at least according to the functions the game uses to modify the stats...


Injured Penalty: Agility, Weapons, Athletics, Animal Handling

Afraid Bonus: Faith, Agility
Afraid Penalty: Royal Demeanor, Weapons, Military, Intrigue

Pressured Bonus: Athletics, Faith
Pressured Penalty: Conversation, History, Economics

Depressed Bonus: Expression, Animal Handling
Depressed Penalty: Royal Demeanor, Conversation, Athletics

Angry Bonus: Weapons, Military
Angry Penalty: Royal Demeanor, Medicine, Animal Handling

Yielding Bonus: History, Royal Demeanor, Faith
Yielding Penalty: Lumen, Weapons

Cheerful Bonus: Athletics, Conversation
Cheerful Penalty: Weapons, Military, Intrigue

Lonely Bonus: Conversation, Medicine
Lonely Penalty: Faith, Royal Demeanor, Intrigue

Willful Bonus: Lumen, Intrigue, Military
Willful Penalty: Royal Demeanor, History, Economics

There are two other bonuses (besides the mood) that apply when training a skill.

Group Bonus (ie Royal Demeanor or Conversation): The value shown here is equal to the mood bonus (-1, 0, or +1) + 0.1*(sum of the three skills in the group)

Meta-Group Bonus (ie Social, Physical, etc): This value is equal to (sum of all skills within the sub-groups it contains) * 0.001

So when you train a skill, the amount of points you gain is:
5 * (2 + group bonus + meta-group bonus)

Atarun

#11 by Atarun - Jun 7 2012

Rhidian:
Here is what should be the correct list, at least according to the functions the game uses to modify the stats...

How strange... There are clearly moods that impact skills very negatively (at least -2 if not -3), but that doesn't appear in your list... How come?

Rhidian

#12 by Rhidian - Jun 7 2012

Atarun:
Rhidian:
Here is what should be the correct list, at least according to the functions the game uses to modify the stats...
How strange... There are clearly moods that impact skills very negatively (at least -2 if not -3), but that doesn't appear in your list... How come?

Because I don't try out my observations in the game to see if they hold up

It seems I misread the functions... the groupings are correct (in terms of penalties and bonuses), but there was no mention of the magnitude, so I just assumed it was 1.

Atarun

#13 by Atarun - Jun 7 2012

Rhidian:
Because I don't try out my observations in the game to see if they hold up It seems I misread the functions... the groupings are correct (in terms of penalties and bonuses), but there was no mention of the magnitude, so I just assumed it was 1.

I see. I fixed the table so that it matches your list. The only problem was with the Angry mood. I'll have to check it again to see why I got it so wrong. ^^

That and I added Injured, except with only -1 penalties because I've never had this status in-game, so I've got no idea what the magnitude of the penalties are. ^^'

Rhidian

#14 by Rhidian - Jun 7 2012

Well, Injured isn't really a controllable mood, so it's fine if it's not on the table. It only gives pentalties, in any case.

There's also the Neutral mood, but that's simply 0 bonuses/penalties to everything

Edit: After checking it out with the console, it seems Injured, whenever it occurs, applies a -3 bonus to all of the physical skills (Agility, Weapons, Athletics, Animal Handling)

Muse

#15 by Muse - Jun 9 2012

Thank you so much! That table is very useful!

Atarun

#16 by Atarun - Jun 9 2012

Muse:
Thank you so much! That table is very useful!

You're very welcome.

RedSocialKnight

#17 by RedSocialKnight - Jun 10 2012

Nothing gives a bonus to economics! I'll never get that printing press!

Thanks for the research, I'm going to keep this open as I play.

Atarun

#18 by Atarun - Jun 10 2012

RedSocialKnight:
Nothing gives a bonus to economics! I'll never get that printing press!

It does take 3 weeks to get... I'm not sure what good it is, technically. ^^'

RedSocialKnight:
Thanks for the research, I'm going to keep this open as I play.

You're very welcome.

I never play without it at hand, myself. ;)

Eclairielle

Thank you

#19 by Eclairielle - Jun 26 2012

Thanks Atarun and Rhidian

I hope you won't mind that I used it in my program as reference, mainly for personal use, and I also decided to integrate it with my excel worksheet, the values will change depending on the chosen class.

Here's a sample:
http://i49.tinypic.com/e0lyc4.png

*sorry about the colors, my color coordination is not that good XD

Atarun

Re: Thank you

#20 by Atarun - Jun 26 2012

Eclairielle:
Thanks Atarun and Rhidian

You're very welcome.

I hope you won't mind that I used it in my program as reference, mainly for personal use, and I also decided to integrate it with my excel worksheet, the values will change depending on the chosen class.

I don't mind at all! I'm happy it was useful!