Hanako Games

A few questions and suggestions -EDITED 23-06-2011

#1 by Vanille - Jun 13 2011

-EDITED 23-6-2011-

Already got most the endings I think.
Damiens, professor Grabby, Ellen, Donald and Virginia except in a more best friend thing rather than romance. xD
And a few variations of them.

Still, my suggestions might already be in game. So I apologize in advance if that happens.

AND, I know the game is..well...FINISHED XD ( So congrats on that btw! )
But IF there were to be made expansions/updates, this is what *I* would like to be changed/added.
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Okay, moving on to my questions/suggestions:

The spell "Inscription" , I can never figure out what it really is for.
Is there a point to it? Will we be able to change an object by writting things on it? Will there be a list of words we can use?
In the first dungeon there's "Dead end" written on the wall. Okay, fair enough, but whats the use of being able to change it if there's absolutely no point in it?
What is this spell exactly for?
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Also. I'm a bit disapointed by the fact that we can learn so many spells but there's no use in having all of them.
Since we can only use them in the school tests. And in those tests usually having only a couple spells is more than enough.

So.. will there be some kind of dungeon where you can go "adventure mode"?
And we can actually find items and money?

I wish there would be more oportunities to go on dungeons or fight monsters. If there were some secrets you can find by doing so. it would be even better! Or even get to have a romantic ending with someone by doing so? *hint William hint*
I just think its a waste, having so many spells you can do. And barely using them.

Perhaps having a dungeon set in the otherworld? I got really curious to what it looked like. XD

So to make it short: MOAR DUNGEONS

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We can get revenge on Damien! By joining Rose and Wasp.
Still it was quite vague. But Hanako did mention something about on Wolf hall we'll be able to meet him again and this time MAYBE get our sweet sweet revenge. So I'll be looking forward to that XD
Since I had my hopes really high on getting to kill him later in the game or something. And get a crazy evil ending XD

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Also, seems to me like lots of people want William XD <3

Followed by Pastel and Luke xD <3
Wonder if we will be able to get them in future games. <3

My guess is...PROBABLY YES xD

Also, I been a REALLY NAUGHTY GIRL and as I looked at the picture files on the game folder. I actually wasnt trying to find any of this, just trying to find a way to get my own hairs and faces into the game somehow XDDDD
And found this lil folder called CG1.

Well, inside said folder was something I didn't quite expect:

There's the kiss scenes from the game XD, and to my surprise, it seemed like we can KISS: Big Steve, Pastel, Luke/Logan (seems like their hair, not sure wich one of the twins tho. And a few couple ones that I couldnt tell who they were, one seemed to be Suki, no idea about the other.

So...can we really kiss ALL these people in horse hall? XDDD what is the meaning of this?? LOLOLOL

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And lastly.... is there a way of uploading our own accessories/hairstyles/eyes/body type etc into the game?
If yes. How?
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Sorry if this sounds demanding! Like I said, they are only suggestions.
And I absolutely LOVE the game so far.
So please keep up the great work.

revenge

#2 by Vanille - Jun 14 2011

Okay, I just got the ending where I get revenge on Damien
But I need to Join the Rose and the Wasp first.
Makes sense I supose.

It was really... rushed and vague though. And all we get is something about william getting his face injured. And Damien losing a wing.
Then at the end. Petunia writtes us about having earned a dangerous enemy.

And das it.

Definitly better than nothing. But could be improved.

#3 by hanako - Jun 15 2011

If you really want to stick the boot into Damien... the WolfPC/Damien relationship will be very different from the HorsePC/Damien relationship, and that's all I can say right now....

#4 by Vanille - Jun 15 2011

Thanks for the info.

Is it alright if I ask though. How much is left till the game is completely finished?
Is the story all done? or will there be more added to it later?

Keep up the great work.

#5 by hanako - Jun 15 2011

The standalone Horse Hall game is basically complete. A few small events may work their way in over time (I have an item that hasn't been added, and some interactions related to it, and when later games are written some references to them will likely be worked into the original, and so on) but I'm not expecting major plot developments within this particular release.

There may or may not be expansions sometime; this will largely depend on sales, demand, and whether we come up with Brilliant Ideas. We have, for example, talked about doing an All Dungeon Summer School Special.

The general gameplan is to officially launch the game within the month, then take some downtime to recharge, then work on a small side project that ISN'T MagicalDiary, then start working on Wolf Hall. However, gameplans are always subject to change!

#6 by Vanille - Jun 16 2011

=D So that means the story is pretty much finished.
About those references you mentioned. All we need to do is update it right?

An all dungeons summer special expansion does sound fantastic tho XD

Add to that some kind of continuation to the stories ( with damien, grabbiner, donald ,ellen etc ) And I'd definitly want to buy it xDDD

as in, DEFINITLY xP

#7 by hanako - Jun 16 2011

Yes, random scenes and items that get worked in would just come through the updater.

If you guys managed to mount a successful campaign to get Steam to carry the game, I would definitely add options to go to the final dance with Big Steve and Balthasar.

The reason you can't currently go to the final dance with some characters like Pastel is that there's actually a huge storyline going on there which you only see small amounts of in this game, where she's not a focal character. I don't want to spoil the end of her plot here where you can't see the rest of it. But once you have THAT game and know what her story really is, she might be unlockable here. Maybe. That's all futurey stuff!

#8 by perch - Jun 16 2011

Aw don't tease us with promises of more dates if we get you on Steam. They're almost impossible to win the lottery of being hosted on. I will however endeavor to push this game far and wide and maybe if you get enough sales I'll get my precious Toad/Snake kids in future updates.

I'm excited to know there's more about Pastel. She's always struck me as either lonely or desperately trying to live up to her mother's reputation. She's one of my favorite characters so knowing there's a lot more than what's been teased out is awesome.

#9 by madeofwhin - Jun 17 2011

hanako:

If you guys managed to mount a successful campaign to get Steam to carry the game, I would definitely add options to go to the final dance with Big Steve and Balthasar.

I'll do it.


EDIT:

Done.

http://www.steampowered.com/steamworks/FAQ.php

#10 by hanako - Jun 17 2011

... that's not what I said.

I'm aware of how to submit a game. I already have. The chances of them saying yes, or even bothering to respond to say no are slim.

Edit: They did actually respond! They said no. Told you.

That's why perch called me a tease.

Steam is not an open market. Submitting your game does not get you in.

Developers often have hopes that if hundreds of players beg Steam to carry a game they'll do it, but even that isn't a guarantee.

#11 by Benazir - Jun 17 2011

William. And I don't understand why my MS can't think about him before Christmas.

#12 by Vanille - Jun 17 2011

Benazir:

William. And I don't understand why my MS can't think about him before Christmas.

;_; I know LOL
Everyone loves William </3

I'm hoping we will be able to get a romantic path with him on Wolf hall.
I think he's into guys probably XDDD. Something about that past he had with Damien hrmmmm XD sounds suspicious.

*gets hopes up*

#13 by Benazir - Jun 17 2011

Vanille:

I think he's into guys probably XDDD. Something about that past he had with Damien hrmmmm XD sounds suspicious.

Well, but William had a girlfriend before too (Angela)

#14 by Vanille - Jun 17 2011

Benazir:

Vanille:

I think he's into guys probably XDDD. Something about that past he had with Damien hrmmmm XD sounds suspicious.

Well, but William had a girlfriend before too (Angela)

He's probably bi

XD Just didnt date Mary Sue because she's a friend of Virginia.

#15 by Spazzbunny - Jun 17 2011

Well, everyone in the world seems to fall into the Everyone is Bi trope. xD I do believe, however, that Virginia said that William had sworn off girls after dating Angela. My bets are that, if he ever becomes a capturable character, it'd be in a game where you are a boy. I have to say though, I would love it if he, like Damien, could be chased as a boy and as a girl. Simply because I firmly believe that somebody ought to try and fix the view on girls that Angela created....

#16 by Vanille - Jun 17 2011

Spazzbunny:

Well, everyone in the world seems to fall into the Everyone is Bi trope. xD I do believe, however, that Virginia said that William had sworn off girls after dating Angela. My bets are that, if he ever becomes a capturable character, it'd be in a game where you are a boy. I have to say though, I would love it if he, like Damien, could be chased as a boy and as a girl. Simply because I firmly believe that somebody ought to try and fix the view on girls that Angela created....

Thats sad if he cant look at girls the same way he used to just because of that bish :c

oh well

#17 by Benazir - Jun 18 2011

Vanille:

XD Just didnt date Mary Sue because she's a friend of Virginia.

Maybe.... And It would be nice if William himself has told about it to my MS.
Anyway I don't want to be with him only when ..... I'm a boy

#19 by hanako - Jun 21 2011

Yes, they'll be sold separately (with discount offers for preorders and people who bought other games and stuff).

At the moment I only expect them each to be one year long, but I can never really be certain about anything I'm not actively working on yet.

#20 by Benazir - Jun 21 2011

mizu:

I love this game and can't wait for more!

Yes! Me too!

#21 by mizu - Jun 23 2011

Do I have to be strong enough and still on his love path in order to get revenge on Damien?

I wish I could delete this.

#22 by Bombermans - Jun 23 2011

Here are some suggestions for the Wolf Hall:

I would absolutely love to see our Gary Stues doing exactly the same as Donald, I mean: being able to be arrested a lot of times, and having a plotline on that. (It doesn't have to involve Donald at all, I don't know XD). For example, being arrested for using your magic in the streets, for vandalism and things like that?

Since you are a Wolf, you like danger and adventure. It would be great to be able to, for example, adventure on more dangerous dungeons.

This hall could be more centered on action things. (Not arcade action of course). I mean, narrative, story oriented action events and things like that.

I would also like to see as a romance path a younger Postdam! XD I don't know... It was mentioned that green magic can make you younger. Maybe a youth potion? I wouldn't like to see her at her actual age as a possible romance option, because it would be... like going on a date with your grandmother. LOL (Maybe this doens't fit in the Wolf Hall... ^^U)

Also maybe not for this hall, but for Butterfly or Toad (or Snake or Falcon), it would be interesting to be able to visit the Outher World (I don't know if it spells like that...) to see MORE magic!

That's all. I hope it helps xD

#23 by Vanille - Jun 23 2011

Bombermans:

Also maybe not for this hall, but for Butterfly or Toad (or Snake or Falcon), it would be interesting to be able to visit the Outher World (I don't know if it spells like that...) to see MORE magic!

That's all. I hope it helps xD

I agree! I wanna see the Other World too XD

#24 by Vanille - Jun 23 2011

Edited the first post.

If you already read it before

Take special attention to the brown and olive green sections ( made them all with diff colours so its easier to understand )

^^

Be carefull with indigo and brown though. They might be SPOILERIFIC LOL

#25 by hanako - Jun 23 2011

As for the thing you saw poking around in the game files - you misinterpreted it. Consider how many hairstyles the PC can have! That file has to be quite complicated to cover the kisses that happen in the game. There is no super-secret snog to be unlocked. (At least, not at the moment.)

#26 by Vanille - Jun 24 2011

xD Oh, but arent the hairs our character has suposed to be on the left?

These were on the right ><

( and at least I was right about Pastel xDD I did get a kiss with her )

#27 by hanako - Jun 24 2011

The PC isn't *always* on the left. (see:Virginia) Just usually.

#28 by Vanille - Jun 24 2011

Ooooh that explains it XD
I still havent gotten the kiss with Virginia

#29 by lionel - Jul 7 2011

I really do hope you guys will consider a longer than one year for the PC, especially with any sort of carry-through. I really liked how Magical Diary was put together, and the writing was strong and genuinely funny (playing my airheaded blonde and my serious raven-haired girl). I applaud you on that.

Now, I see that you guys plans to do each hall eventually? I don't know if it is possible, but a neat 'suggestion' would be to incorporate the PC from the other halls in some form, by sequence.. for example say the Wolf Hall character learns of references to the Horse hall one in some form in the story or sees her and can interact with her.

An example, asy you tried to run for President and failed for example for the main PC in Magical Diary - Horse. But then you start up Wolf and say he comes in on the 2nd year for the original PC... and that PC appears as say the President this time around (so instead of Minnie frequenting the story, it would be the PC imported from the first game). And of course this can be used to fill in a number of SINGLE positions, depend on the choices of the PC in the 1st game (treasurer, dating X or Y, etc). Would be a cool feature, reminds me sort of something like Mass Effect would do, and would definitely be unique for Magical Diary, but hey that's just an idea.

I look forward to your guys next release. I loved the art style and story of Magical Diary so I'm watching you guys (like a stalker!), and while I'm not a fan of too many of your other games (not in a bad way, just not my type, heh), I do hope you guys continue this series anyway! ^^

#30 by nightingale - Jul 7 2011

What Lionjel wrote, I was wondering myself. Considering I found the Hieronymous path extremely satisfying and VERY well-written, I was wondering how continuity would be preserved in the next chapter, if this will be happening at the same time? Or maybe next game will be about next year'sfreshmen, meaning the happy ending I got in this game with my favourite characters would be somehow gossiped about in the next part, for instance, by new freshmen in a different hall? I think I'd like that.

#31 by MachineMaiden - Jul 7 2011

I am currently still in my play-through of Magical Diary and blogging about it with my weird, weird thoughts but I think the addition of secret roman-cable is very spiffy. I reminisce a lot of this game of when I was playing Tokimeki Girls Side 1st Love for DS. Yes there is a patch you can add to play it in English and it is very, very enjoyable. If possible or if you haven't maybe do a play-through of that and see what I mean? If need be I can give you the page and such.
Back on topic here. For the sequel I noticed someone said a younger Potsdam but how would that work out? I know no details have been announced but I assumed that Wolf took place the following year of Horse. For a younger Potsdam to work she would need to use a glamor/illusion or find an elixir of youth. XD Me? I'm hoping for the next, next hall for the female PC to have a new teacher like Reiichi Himuro~ swoon~ http://tokimemo.over-blog.com/article-10097283.html
I also had thoughts about asking if you could making it over a course of 3 years but with that many words for one year and since it's going to be 6 games then I understand 1 year each.
So far though I would really like to see more non-human romances. Being told of fairies, dragons, elfs and all really makes me want to see them. XD Like that one cute purplish wolf boy I wanted to glomp (cause wolfs are one of the very few animals in the animal kingdom that mate for life yes, yes I am a romantic and proud of it )! Plus the altering gender species reminded me of Asari from Mass Effect. Just give me an Alistair type from Dragon Age:Origins or Fenris from Dragon Age 2, Garrus from Mass Effect 1&2 and I'll be fine!

#32 by hanako - Jul 7 2011

The games are intended to take place at the same time. Characters who haven't been pursuable yet will be in the later games.

Grabiner is *not* going to be a romance option in the Wolf Hall game. Minnie, however...

I did have some ideas about referencing your own characters from Horse Hall in the background of future games originally, but I don't think it will actually work out. Since the Wolf PC will be interacting with some of the same characters, it would have too much impact on those storylines if a Horse PC existed. Those stories couldn't happen if she were there. I could have it so that your Horse PC was assigned a different set of Horse roommates and had a totally different life so that the cameo was nothing but name and face, but I'm not sure that would be satisfying in any way.

Basically, consider each game a slightly different continuity for the same year. In the next game, that wildseed girl never came to Horse Hall, but a mysterious exchange student joined Wolf Hall.

#33 by nightingale - Jul 9 2011

oo, I see. Ok. So it's like alternative realities within the same school, while the rest may be up for imagination..I like that and the fact that previous romancable characters will not be romancable any more (no, i still can;t stop swooning over that Grabiner. I feel like a giddy teenager, lol) Really appreciate the clarification. I suppose adding some mentions of Horse Pc would indeed complicate too much. Maybe one day, if you ever decide to collect all and any chapters that will comw together into one game, you could consider some tie-ins, however. Bercause it seems to me you are creating a potentially vast universe, especially with all the otherworld mentions and other problems that could really give you nice tie-ins betwween chapters. Perhaps that would be a game which would deal with the rest of the years at the school, though I suppose it would have to be a really big game where the player would chose at the start which house they want to start in and then would follow appropraite storylines from each chapter and then you could have multiple Pcs at the same time, so that one would marry Grabiner whole other would be dating William. It would not necessarily make things difficults, as long as they would only be collected under one game and the player would know that the choice of a hall determines the gameplay. i hope I haven;t said anything confusing here.

Eh..That's why I prefer Cue Knight Kingdoms. loved it since the moment I bought it but...once I achieve a certain path that is satisfying to me I do not really care about others, since there are plenty of other characters I do not care about. In CKK I stopped after achieving smithy, mermaid and eastern princess endings as they were the most appealing to me.

In horse hall, I would not consider datin either William (wishy-washy) or Donald. Though I went on Damien path initially, but he's just to...bi-polar to me. So once I achieved Grabiner ending, it really became a one-path game for me because I just like such male characters and I liked the way the Mary sue turned out to be on this path. It's like ...good things come to those who are patient- and since his seems to be the most difficult path, these are always the mst satisfying. Hey, it helps that he;s some nobel (prince) in disguise. Hehe. Damien;s was difficult too..but I don't like him half as much as Grabiner. He's the womanizer, Grabiner his polar opposite.

As for Minnie and that creepy stalker,she could well use another suitor....though I am not a fan of same gender romance. Don;t get me wrong, I have nothing against them, but I don't really care for them enough to pursue them. There are certain types I am looking for and Grabiner atually reminded me of a nintendo I think it was sim game about ball dancing and princesse changing place with a Mary Eu from modern times and there was this character, elusive and reclusive luciano who was just as difficult to achieve and required patience. I guess these are just my types in games like this.

That's the beauty of such games, however and you're doing a marvellous job of creating really good dating/multiple story-lines visual novels.
I'll be watching you more,but you had me with Cute Knight Kingdoms and the smithy..lol. And you keep getting better, fillin the market for such multi storyline, user-friendly. not too big and well-priced dating sims/visual stories with many choices.

#34 by Lyrics - Jul 20 2011

Why not Manuel ? He's kinda cute, though xD

pastel kiss cg

#35 by Wrynn - Oct 14 2011

I got the pastel kiss cg. Went along with her wierd event after giving her valentines chocolate.

just speculation here, but pastel probably is one of those no gender creatures given what faery's are like in lore.