Trophies (spoilers)

perch

#1 by perch - May 28 2011

Is anyone else having trouble getting the Cutie/Weird trophies?

I can get my Cute up to 80 on most plays and once to 90, but not to 100. Weird is worse for me, I've only managed to get up to 80 once. Usually I top off at around 70.

Also has anyone gotten Naughty, Delinquent, Star Student or Treasurer yet? I have a pet theory that some of them might be related to romance paths even if they aren't themselves romantic events since three of the trophies are exclusive to certain character paths. Divorce = Grabiner. Conspiracy = Ellen and Walking in Darkness = Damien.

I guess you could say that Bunny!!= Big Steve though I don't know if he counts as an official side relationship.

My pet theory extends to a wild hope that all four of those are linked to side romances with one each for Donald and Virginia and then a couple for other little relationships. Kind of like how Pastel is an option for the Been Kissed trophy if your Sue isn't on a main romance.

However I haven't been able to find the elusive scenes if they do exist for either Donald or Virginia and I've dug pretty extensively into as many of Donald's scenes as possible, including sabotaging him on occasion.

junsei7

#2 by junsei7 - May 28 2011

@perch

I've got the Cute one, but I'm terrible at Weird - I think the highest I've got is 70. I'm not sure how best to compare notes on this one. I've got a table of where I found points I could send you?

I've had no luck with Star Student, Treasurer, Naughty or Delinquent either. I thought Star Student might be passing all exams (including the first one choosing a colour one), but that didn't work.

No idea what to do with Naughty and Delinquent.

perch

#3 by perch - May 28 2011

junsei7:
@perch

I've got the Cute one, but I'm terrible at Weird - I think the highest I've got is 70. I'm not sure how best to compare notes on this one. I've got a table of where I found points I could send you?

Oh that would be wonderful, thank you! I get close on Cute, but I just can't get to 100 and I suck at getting lucky enough to get the 'seek hugs' events. We could PM or just use spoiler tags/color compare notes here.

I was thinking Naughty might have something to do with either Pastel or breaking up Kyo/Minnie if that's possible, but I just don't know. Though hunting for those trophies has let me discover nifty side paths I hadn't found before so it's still fun to try. I just wish I had some hints so I'd have an idea of how to approach them.

I only found Bunny!! because I have an (un)healthy obsession with Big Steve. X_x

junsei7

#4 by junsei7 - May 28 2011

I've PMed you which will hopefully work. Let me know if it doesn't coz I haven't done it before and may have done something wrong.

My Treasurer theory was a bust. I was odd how hard it was not to spend any money though!

I automatically default to dating Donald and was forced to the arcade so had to start again...

Maybe Treasurer is raising lots of money while in post - so doing well with the candles and May ball? But I'm not sure which is the better option there anyway. I know I give more money to Manuel than Ellen's snack boxes, but there's no indication if you raised lots or just enough.

Riviera

#5 by Riviera - May 28 2011

I don't *think* it's merely raising money.. I've been treasurer, and even got a note from Potsdam on how well I raised money, and didn't get the trophy.

I'm confused about all those trophies, though.

Delinquent seems like it should be the same as Truant or Expelled..

Naughty almost seems like one you should get if you flirt with Pastel while on another romance route.

Star Student seems like one you'd get if you got max merits (which is 50), but it's not the case.

Maybe... maybe you get treasurer if you get all the items in the game? Is that even possible? o_O

junsei7

#6 by junsei7 - May 28 2011

I thought maybe Naughty would be casting Spirit Sight at the dance when you'd alreday been told not to by Grabiner, but it seems not. Unless you have to do lots of 'Naughty' things, but I tried quite a few when I was trying to get Divorced.

I don't know!

I don't think you could get all the items even if you always won at Bingo!

hanako

#7 by hanako - May 31 2011

Trophy updates coming in near future; they may not all be working (or even in the game!) at the moment.

Suggestions still welcome for more scenes to add Cute and Weird points with.

junsei7

#8 by junsei7 - May 31 2011

Oop! Sorry for jumping the gun on trophies again!

Weird points are the hardest for me to get and I think they're also harder to work naturally into the story (or I just lack imagination!). Maybe some existing ones could be worth more (like hugs gets you 15 cute, whereas interpretive dance only gets you 5 weird)? Perhaps there could be a weird option in duelling with Donald (the Dodge, spell options) as it's a scene on all paths? Maybe also taking a weird approach to an exam (which will probably lead to failure, but still...) like Suki with the Hodag or when Grabiner gets annoyed that you chose White or Green in the first exam? Or maybe a weird option in your election speech? Or a weird equivalent to the Star Wand if more accessories weren't too difficult?

perch

#9 by perch - May 31 2011

Sorry Hanako, I thought the ones listed would be in it, but that was silly of me considering you guys were so rushed. Does that mean not all/any of the small side romances/relationships/friendships are in the game as well?

For weird/cute suggestions these are what I came up with for the first half of the year:

When you see Ellen in your room going through Virginia's things and the option for 'stealing your underwear' comes up. I think that could be worth 5 weird points.

If you go to gym before initiation and talk to Damien and then select the 'ask him about his wings' bit. It could be cute points for being a bold horse.

Seconding Junsei7 about the election running. I think it would be nice if the 'interpretive dance' option was worth slightly more like say 10 weird.

If you're at the mall when Virginia goes to buy Donald's present you could get 5 weird points for a suggestion, like you can get 5 cute points.

After the Dark Dance when you change the subject during the Virginia/Ellen conversation about William you could have a cute option in the list, kind of how you have a weird one if you know Damien.

Also seconding Junsei7 about there being a weird option when dueling Donald if you happen to have the right magic spell.

Perhaps if Donald asks you to help him with the snow man that could be worth some cute/weird points.

At Christmas if you get Virginia maybe one of her card combos could give 5 weird points like how one of Ellen's already gives 5 cute points.

@junsei7 I didn't get the pm. I'm not sure why though.

hanako

#10 by hanako - May 31 2011

There should be weird points on one of the Christmas card options already, although I haven't checked it recently to make sure.

Ladygothika87

#11 by Ladygothika87 - May 31 2011

One of Virginia's card combinations does give you weird points.

perch

#12 by perch - May 31 2011

Oh thanks I hadn't found it yet. Just like I'm still searching for the weird candle option.

Got the card weird! It's cute, I'm glad it was pointed out.

junsei7

#13 by junsei7 - Jun 1 2011

oo! I thought I had tried all the card combos, but obviously missed one - thanks!

@perch - the PM is sitting in my Outbox, but not my Sent box. I've not sent one before so maybe I did something wrong? I thought I just had to press the PM button and then 'submit'?

perch

#14 by perch - Jun 1 2011

I found it thank you!

I managed to get 100 weird but no trophy so I'll wait on that one. Super hard to do and I have notes for Cute (thanks Junsei7!) so now to wait patiently for the game to go live with all the trophies in place.

*bounces in place* I love this game I keep finding little side gems and hidden endings as I dig around for trophies.

Ladygothika87

#15 by Ladygothika87 - Jun 1 2011

The weird Christmas card combo is the same for both Virginia and Ellen.
Black and Frogs. Haven't found a cute for Virginia though...

perch

#16 by perch - Jun 1 2011

@Ladygothika87

I don't think there is a cute card combo for Virginia, but there is a second weird one Purple with Frogs.

hanako

#17 by hanako - Jun 2 2011

The latest beta *should* now let you reach all the trophies currently listed in the gallery. At least one trophy will be added later when I've had time to write a few new scenes.

Since it would have been obvious if the trophy had been working earlier, I'll tell you that the Treasurer trophy is just for winning the election and getting the Treasurer position.

But you'll have to play through those scenes again to unlock it.

A few new Weird points have been added, and a new Weird item is in development.

perch

#18 by perch - Jun 2 2011

Question. I had a save where I was up to 90 weird and had bat wings in reserve. I just fired that one up, had my Sue put on her bat wings for 100 weird and didn't get the trophy unlock. Do I need to start over and get all the weird again to make it work? Or is that just a case of something weird happening?

hanako

#19 by hanako - Jun 2 2011

most likely it's currently checking the total when new weird points are gained in-plot, and not checking teh total after every time you change your equipment.

I know I definitely had the trophy appear when I had 95 weird including items and then gained 5 more in plot.

Will poke further.

perch

#20 by perch - Jun 2 2011

@Hanako

Cool. I got the trophy by just starting over (wanted to get Treasurer) and finding some of the extra weird scenes.

Has anyone found Delinquent yet? I've found Star Student (Riviera you were right), Weird, Treasurer, Naughty and I'm working on Cutie (junsei7 power!), but I haven't managed to figure out this last one yet.

What I've tried:

I've tried being treasurer and then losing the position due to bad marks.

I've tried ending the game with below -50 merits and being given the choice.

And I'm hunting for a save that works far enough back to get Donald to fight Kyo and backslide on his own attempt at being a better student, but otherwise I'm stumped on this one if that's not the solution.

Edited: Never mind I got the Delinquent trophy! Yay! Now my endless hunting is over...until I find out there's some cool ending I missed.

hanako

#21 by hanako - Jun 3 2011

New trophy in beta now, although it shouldn't give you any trouble to pick up.

There are also a few possible scenes related to it that can happen the day after.

perch

#22 by perch - Jun 3 2011

I just got it. Now I need to figure out how to arrange to be on a certain romance path and then get that ending so I can see how it plays out.

It's a pretty cool trophy!

junsei7

#23 by junsei7 - Jun 4 2011

Got my trophies - yay! Thanks to everyone here (@perch especially) for the Weird help. And thanks to Hanako for adding in some more Weird to pick up - I thought I'd never get there!

a_crow

#24 by a_crow - Jun 5 2011

Hanako, please tell me the "I love being STRONG" achievement is a Homestuck reference.

hanako

#25 by hanako - Jun 5 2011

Of course!

a_crow

#26 by a_crow - Jun 5 2011

Hahah yes! I love you

selenity136

#27 by selenity136 - Jun 11 2011

I can't seem to get the summer school and deliquent one. =( Help?

perch

#28 by perch - Jun 11 2011

In theory you can get both in the same playthrough depending on how you go about it. Spoilers: To get Summer School you need to get enough merits to get expelled, but you have to make sure you only get enough to be expelled in the final dungeon, not before. For Delinquent you need to keep getting detentions until the achievement pops up.

silvername

#29 by silvername - Jun 23 2011

how can i get the trophy: walking in darkness o.o

It's that trophy connected to Damien?

I tried picking the options of giving valentine's gift to myself and thinking on myself on christmas xD but I couldn;'t get it yet @_@

Schizoid

#30 by Schizoid - Jun 24 2011

You get the trophy Walking in Darkness when you are on Damien's path. (:

What I did was I thought about Damien around Christmas, Gave him a friendly valentine, and I offered him my soul. I chose 'Words of Love' when given the option so that he didn't kill me. >> Er...I asked Mrs. Potsdam to allow him to go to the ball, which brings attention to the fact that you still love him. Your friends ask you to promise not to see him anymore. Promise. I got the trophy when I saw him after the ball. It was the first trophy I got in the game, and it kind of depressed me. D=

I hope this helps. ^^

silvername

#31 by silvername - Jun 24 2011

oh!!!! I totally stop right there when I promised not to talk to him xD. I thought I would die and get a bad ending so I change it xD. thanks alot!!!!

Vanille

#32 by Vanille - Jun 24 2011

I can't get bunny!!! help?

Schizoid

#33 by Schizoid - Jun 24 2011

Okies! I finally managed to get this a couple of days ago!

To get the bunny, I went to the mall and played pinball during the begining of the game. Big Steve was there, and I tried to talk to him. I went the next week and tried to play pinball again. I pestered him some more. ^^ Next time, I THINK I got the option to have him help me with the claw machine. o.o He gets you the bunny out of it, and then you get the option to keep it. ^_^ Big Steve is so cute!

perch

#34 by perch - Jun 24 2011

@Vanille

Bunny!! is kind of tricky to get since it depends on a timed event.

Detailed Spoilers:

At the beginning of the year go to the Mall - Arcade - Play Pinball.
Next free weekend go to the Mall - Arcade - Play Pinball - Talk to Big Steve.
On the apple festival weekend go to the Mall - Arcade - Play Pinball and talk to Big Steve again.

The next time you go to the mall go the Arcade - Play Claw Machine - Cast a spell on it (you need to know Red - Push, Blue - Teleport Other or another spell like that). Then you talk to Potsdam (note: if you want to get treasurer you might want to wait until after you've decided to run for it before doing this step).

Finally after that Go to the Mall - Arcade - and there should be a new option for the Claw Machine and some dialog choices.

At this point you have two options for your Bunny:

1. Keep the bunny as an accessory and enjoy the stat boost.

2. Give the bunny away. If you do this you unlock a couple of special scenes with Big Steve. In December during the snowstorm weekend you can option to 'relax' and get a special event and around Easter you get another automatic event with him. Just cute little scenes.

Schizoid

o.o

#35 by Schizoid - Jun 24 2011

I didn't have to cast a spell on the claw machine in order to ask for his help. o_o; It just gave me the option to.

perch

#36 by perch - Jun 24 2011

@Schizoid

That's really interesting. That was the only way I could do it when I finally stumbled over it during beta. Hey easier way to get the bunny for the win right? Did you still have to talk to him during the apple festival weekend?

Schizoid

#37 by Schizoid - Jun 24 2011

Yes, I did. That was the second time that I spoke to him, I believe. Sue asked him why he didn't go. After that, I went back and it gave me the option to ask Steve to help me with the claw machine. ^^ I was pleased, since the latter option gets you into a little trouble with Petunia. o.<

perch

#38 by perch - Jun 24 2011

Thanks for the tip! I'll do it that way next time I play through since I'd rather not get the demerits personally. He's such an awesome character I pretty much have to get the Bunny event every play through at this stage.

Schizoid

#39 by Schizoid - Jun 24 2011

No problem! I was just playing it to see the scenes with Big Steve, and was pleasantly surprised when it happened~

I only recently got curious enough to see him, actually. He is a sweet character. Though, I'm still more drawn to Damien. >3< *shakes fist* It's so easy to get stuck on his path...

Vanille

#40 by Vanille - Jun 24 2011

@ Schizoid and Perch

Thank you guys! I got it now XD

Big Steve is soooo cute LMFAO

silvername

#41 by silvername - Jun 24 2011

thanks a lot for the info, guys. The bunny was my next goal.Now, I am curious to talk to big Steve <3.

icywind

#42 by icywind - Jul 18 2011

How about the Divorce Trophy?
How do I get that?

junsei7

#43 by junsei7 - Jul 19 2011

icywind:
How about the Divorce Trophy?
How do I get that?

I think there's help on other threads here, but basically by the time you get married you should have around -30 merits, then just fail exams and exasperate Grabiner as much as you can.

You need -50 merits before the final exam happens, I believe.

Aralune

#44 by Aralune - Jul 21 2011

How do I get the "Walking in darkness" trophy?
And also I cant get the "cutie pie" trophy either....=(
I would like to know if there is any way to get Kyo to say yes when you tell him to date you instead

evershifter

#45 by evershifter - Jul 22 2011

Walking in Darkness: On the Damien path, ask Potsdam if Damien can attend the ball, then promise not to speak to him at the final exam. When he shows up at the end, break your promise, and there you go.

Cutie Pie: You just have to max out your cute score. Damien's path gives a fair number of cute points, and there's a couple threads on here with general information on where points are available. It's kinda hard to give more direct advice on that one. Oh, running for President offers a couple nice opportunities for cute points, too.

I'm pretty sure Kyo won't ever agree to go out with you.

Jenny1991

cute/weird/star student xx

#46 by Jenny1991 - Aug 17 2011

I got cute one at last it was hard but i eventually got it it, you'll get 10 cute for shouting Damien's name in the hall when u planned to go out that day wif him but got detention instead. You'll also get 10 cute when ur in the dungeon during an exam, the hooded figure one, if you use a spell to talk through ur minds then say you'll kiss him if he leaves you alone then ur cute will go up..

The hightest I get weird is 60 without trying though.. So I'll try that then get back to u all !!

now for the star student, I got that when I got my merits upto 50.

Any more questions then just ask.

xx

P.S. If anyone can tell me how to get the bunny one or divorce that will be great help.. I know how to get the bunny but that damn claw machine is a pain in they ass

I go to the arcade every saturday to get the bunny but I still can't get it ?? By any chance does someone else have to get it for me ??

xxx

Jenny1991

delinquent trophy xx

#47 by Jenny1991 - Aug 17 2011

YAAAAAAY!!!! I finally got the delinquint trophy.. All you have to do is get 5 detentions xD xx

Here's two detentions at the start.. Keep one of ur main classes at 0 and then when its tim e for the first exam Mrs Potsdam will ask you about detention if you say "I think its best" then you'll get detention but wont take the first exam. Then when Ellen is looking round the room go and get Virgina and then say "I don't know" then that next monday if you sleep or study in ur room then Donald will be outside placing a box outside your room door then if you ask "Why are you doing this to Virgina" he talk about how she wont help clean up then you"ll get 3 options, 1 "Take it away" 2 "Fine leave it" and the 3rd one is "I have a better idea" if you say "Fine leave it" Donald will call you a star and leave it and then when Virgina finds it say nothing and then she"ll hear you giggle and then you two will argue and then the nxt day the guy teacher will ask you a question and then give you detention because Virgina told him it was you and Donald. However, Sweet Donald will say he"s sorry and say thats its not fair..

hehe.. He's my favourite romance story

even when you're married and tell him the whole story !!!

xxx

DarthSnuggles

#48 by DarthSnuggles - Aug 26 2011

I didn't see it mentioned here (though I was only skimming) so I thought I'd chime in with my two cents: I got the Naughty trophy the first time I got detention on my Sue. I'm not sure if you have to get a specific detention for that one, but that was how I did it.